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Tony Broomfield's avatar

Good report that, lots to chew on. False Flags are us, even in the muzak industry. Thanks Ben

Robert Harvey's avatar

Nice dot-joining Ben.

And yes, shit music too.

Artemis's avatar

Wow, this guy is a lyrical genius...not!

Ben Rubin's avatar

right, lowest common denominator garbage

The Speed of Science's avatar

Didn't know about the logo, but did note the Ram's head on the back of his left hand and what seems like HOAX written on his left forearm. I had the same thoughts almost straight away, this guy is being used.

cookie's avatar

Similar story to the hippy movement. It was working class well presented people protesting Vietnam, so they created hippies, drugs, free love etc. So people saw something they didn't approve of so it took longer to end the killing of young Americans, dying for nothing.

Fil666's avatar

Yes! Loves me a bit of Crass since 1979!

cookie's avatar

They are bloody awful. I don't listen to music much these days, it's crap mostly.

Philip's avatar

Waddedson just down the road from me. They are replacing the sheep with solar panels - guess it is easier to manage that.

Flowie Georgiou's avatar

the 2 tuneless boys are a bit thick arent they…

which is why they were picked.

easy to manipulate and bribe with the promise of short term fame and fortune. promoted by evil behind them which they are probably oblivious to.

Dicky.B's avatar

I've heard gammons referring to the Police too, as in pigs, porky's and bacon.

Johnny Savvy's avatar

Very well done-amazing connections! Interesting name for a group…tortoise…slow and steady wins the race and they are in it to win it!

Baldmichael's avatar

Tortoise indicates it is a 'shell' company. :)

Baldmichael's avatar

Thanks Ben. More silly distraction I suppose. Meanwhile the evil GMC strikes off a doctor from its register for daring to stand up againts the poisonous COVID 19 vaccines.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0w5775v9go

As to Bob Vylan, this will anagram to Babylon V, a TV space opera. It is all theatre.

I see the singer's real name is Pascal Robinson-Foster. This can anagram to 'nb lo professor satanic'. Maybe this is significant.

In any event he is a vylan (sic)!

Susan Harley's avatar

Interesting, thanks for this insightful post Ben .

Melissa Campanella's avatar

Sounds like a bad knock off of “Rage against the Machine”

Frances Leader's avatar

Ease up Ben! We all screw up when we are young and tbf, KneeCap and Vylan are no more in-yer-face offensive and clumsy geo-politically than we were back in the day. It is a steep learning curve with many traps. They will either learn the hard way or they will retreat in the face of embarrassment.

Thank you so much for mentioning CRASS. For Penny Rimbaud the initial inspiration for founding Crass was the death of his friend Wally Hope, as detailed in his book The Last of the Hippies: An Hysterical Romance. Wally had been suddenly sectioned under the Mental Health Act, after helping to set up the first Stonehenge Festival in 1974. Wally died shortly afterwards and Penny Rimbaud believed that he was murdered (chemically coshed) by the State for political reasons. This was not an uncommon outcome for activists at the time - truth be told, it still isn’t.

The Wikipedia write-up is surprisingly detailed and accurate (as far as my old memory serves). Worth a read if you are too young to know what the punk anarchist scene experienced in its day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crass

Ben Rubin's avatar

Also Frances, while we have you. Could you please explain your comments on the recent Esc Key article where you repeatedly denied the existence of UN documentation he very clearly provided links to? I must say I found that rather confusing

Frances Leader's avatar

Ease up Ben! That is not an accurate version of what occurred between me and ESC. The links provided were duds but, fortunately, another reader spotted the problem and fixed it.

Ben Rubin's avatar

No I shall not ‘ease up’. Thank you for the background on Crass.

St Stephen's avatar

Obvious agents provocateurs.

Frances Leader's avatar

I don't think they are sufficiently bright for that. They are sincerely angry about the genocide and their actions have been misconstrued.

St Stephen's avatar

I don't believe it's a coincidence that one minute this talentless creature is offering Starmer and his gang grist for their antisemitic tropes on a silver platter and the next chanting "I hear you want your country back. Shut the fuck up!", a direct provocation offered to native British who can see that they are being made second-class citizens in their own country by the Starmer government's policy of favoring blacks and south asians while denigrating and persecuting white working class British. That's the 'race war' in the making Ben Rubin is talking about, and I think he's right to have smelt a rat at Glastonbury, which you must have noticed has become a grotesque travesty of its former self that now serves as a promotional vehicle for cultural dross and woke programming.

I'd recommend you read Simon Elmer on 'the Great Replacement'. But then you might not wish to accept his views, from fear of being 'racist'.

https://www.ukcolumn.org/writer/simon-elmer

Ben doesn't have to go far to find the thoughts of Chairman Elmer. Though he may find it curious that while both are 'card-carrying communists', Elmer is Queer Starmer's antithesis.

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Frances Leader's avatar

Glamping at Glasto lost my respect when the travellers were evicted in the 90s. Since then I have not been back to the site.

As for ‘racism’ I have my own theory about the weaponisation of immigration based in a Pentagon plan implemented since 9/11:

https://francesleader.substack.com/p/ww3-the-pentagon-brief?utm_source=publication-search

Ben Rubin's avatar

They are 34 year old men with an axe to grind and a platform. Whether they are useful idiots of deliberate provocateurs makes little difference, the message and outcome are the same. They are literally promoting and inciting a race war on British streets. There’s nothing to misconstrue.

Frances Leader's avatar

A race war? On British streets? I am sincerely concerned about you now. You don’t need to ease up, you need a reality check. Are you seriously imagining that British people will attack Jews in the streets? C’mon man!

Look around you, Ben. Who do you see rioting? British men have been systematically weakened. Several generations have unknowingly consumed feminising chemicals in their food and water, especially their beer. They might get mouthy if you take away their drink and drugs but that is as far as it goes.

Ben Rubin's avatar

and what has this got to do with Jews? I’m talking very clearly about conflict between migrants and natives, as espoused by Bob Vylan. Given what happened in Southport and across the North less than 12 months ago your suggestion that a race war is beyond possibility is naive at best and I’m tending towards deliberately dishonest

Frances Leader's avatar

Bob Vylan was quoted chanting "Death, death to the IDF" - that is the Israeli Defence Force, is it not?

You seem to be confused.

Ben Rubin's avatar

Have you actually watched the film I made or are you just mouthing off in the comments?

Frances Leader's avatar

Of course I watched your video. I just do not agree with you. Can't you take it?

I agree with this:

https://jonathancook.substack.com/p/the-real-crimes-are-taking-place

Flowie Georgiou's avatar

ooops! looks like their agents have just dropped them